How to Open an XR4Ti Hood if the Cable Snaps

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How to Open an XR4Ti Hood if the Cable Snaps

Post by anglin » Mon May 08, 2006 9:30 pm

All,

The "help, I broke my hood cable and I can't get my hood open" is a perennial topic, so I suppose it is an appropriate item for the FAQ section. I doon't have a large amount to add, since it was 11 years ago the last time I had a problem (man... THAT is a dangerous thing to say). So, I need you guys to help build the FAQ. Here's what we are looking for:

- how you opened the hood
- the part that actually broke
- what you did to prevent it from happenening again
- what you did after opening the hood to prevent it from happening in the future
- any special 'tools' you utilized

Here's what I have to offer.

I actually didn't have a cable break. The cable just popped free of the unlatching mechanism. I used a special 'tool' made of a 12" long, or so, piece of window screen frame to reach up from underneath the car and pop the latch free. Fortunately I had a parts car (my very first one) nearby to get a look at the latch mechanism so I knew what I was working with. Some folks may be able to reach the latch mechanism with their hands, but my big popeyeass forearms prevent me from such activities.

I have used plastic zip ties on the hood cable to permanently retain it to the mechanism of every XR4Ti I've owned since that happened to me.

There is also a thread similar to this in the Scorpio section, since the Scorpio suffers from the same problem.

http://forum.merkurclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7194

Edit: I received the following information via private message and figure it is worth sharing in here.
Dipstick wrote:I saw the "How to Open an XR4Ti Hood if the Cable Snaps" FAQ

I don't know if this is true for Merkurs, but on Ford Sierras there is actually an "emergency" mechanism to open the hood if your cable snaps. If you get under the car and look up between the radiator, there is a hole below the hood lock. Insert a screwdriver through the hole so that it passes to the right of the lock striker. Then twist or lever the lock sliding plate to the right until the striker is released.

This works on Sierras at least, and maybe you guys know about it already, but if not, it could be worth checking out!
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Post by anglin » Tue May 09, 2006 4:22 pm

Man, I sure hope none of your hood cables ever snap or pop loose, because this almost-FAQ will never become a full-fledged FAQ without some user input! How ironic is it that the Scorpio FAQ on this topic actually has some replies, even though there's about 63 Scorpios left on the road and only 3 of their owners participate in any online forums...

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Post by John Brennan » Tue May 09, 2006 4:57 pm

I replaced my assy. a few years back when the handle under the steering wheel broke, but it was not an impediment to opening the hood, so I have nothing else to offer...
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Post by DPDISXR4Ti » Tue May 09, 2006 10:49 pm

I'm not sure why, but I get the feeling that the Scorpio cable breaks way more often. Sorry, but that's the only useless bit of info I've got to add. :oops:
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Post by merkurmaniac » Wed May 10, 2006 9:18 am

I'd suggest adding a nice close up picture of a hood latch mechanism for reference. Figure that anyone hunting that information would appreciate the picture, since lots of folks don't have a parts car for reference. The picture should be taken from the engine POV and maybe have an arrow saying.. "push this to the left" or whatever. That would have been nice to have when my hood latch popped loose last year on the way to Carlisle.

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Post by SARON81 » Wed May 10, 2006 3:04 pm

Every couple of months, the ball at the end of the cable used to come out of the release. I crimped the bracket around it tighter, and haven't had any problems since. I'd jack up ane side of the car, crawl under there....and reeeeeach my arm up, and could just reach the end of the release.

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Post by merkurdriver » Mon Dec 30, 2019 3:58 am

merkurmaniac wrote:
Wed May 10, 2006 9:18 am
I'd suggest adding a nice close up picture of a hood latch mechanism for reference. Figure that anyone hunting that information would appreciate the picture, since lots of folks don't have a parts car for reference. The picture should be taken from the engine POV and maybe have an arrow saying.. "push this to the left" or whatever. That would have been nice to have when my hood latch popped loose last year on the way to Carlisle.
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Post by DPDISXR4Ti » Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:47 pm

merkurdriver wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2019 3:58 am
13 years later... your wish has been granted
Nice update Mike! Shouldn't you add, "Perform this operation only on a stone-cold engine". Or perhaps better yet...
"Step 1 Disconnect power to cooling fan(s)"
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Re: How to Open an XR4Ti Hood if the Cable Snaps

Post by andyofcolumbusmerkur » Mon Dec 30, 2019 7:15 pm

Mike, you sir are a fine American.
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Post by merkurdriver » Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:58 am

DPDISXR4Ti wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:47 pm
merkurdriver wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2019 3:58 am
13 years later... your wish has been granted
Nice update Mike! Shouldn't you add, "Perform this operation only on a stone-cold engine". Or perhaps better yet...
"Step 1 Disconnect power to cooling fan(s)"
**Proceed with extra caution on 1985 model year where the fans will turn on without the key even in the ignition.

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Post by DAReese » Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:11 pm

merkurdriver wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:58 am
DPDISXR4Ti wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:47 pm
merkurdriver wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2019 3:58 am
13 years later... your wish has been granted
Nice update Mike! Shouldn't you add, "Perform this operation only on a stone-cold engine". Or perhaps better yet...
"Step 1 Disconnect power to cooling fan(s)"
**Proceed with extra caution on 1985 model year where the fans will turn on without the key even in the ignition.
And some 86s. Mine would do that on occasion.
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Re: How to Open an XR4Ti Hood if the Cable Snaps

Post by milehighXR » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:16 pm

Fans coming on without key in the ignition was a daily occurrence with my XR in the summers at nearly 5000ft of altitude. And that was without driving it hard.
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